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| The Sims Online Stratics - 2/16/03 Fireside Chat |
Valeria - Welcome to The Sims Online Fireside Chat! Tonight's chat is going to be in a semi-moderated format.
Valeria - This is different from other Chats we've had, so let me give you a brief description as to how this is going to work.
Valeria - I'll post a question in the channel then unmoderate the room. This will allow everyone to answer that particular question. When it's time to move on to another question, I'll moderate the room and post the next one.
Valeria - Now before we get started, I'm going to give the floor to MaxisTigger who has a few words she'd like to say.
MaxisTigger - Hello everyone and welcome to our discussion :)
MaxisTigger - We are doing things a bit differently tonight so I can gather feedback and deliver it to our team
MaxisTigger - As some of you may know I have been giving sneak peeks during the last few chats on what is coming
MaxisTigger - Tonight will be no different :)
MaxisTigger - Coming soon to Test Center we will be implementing Secured Trading.
MaxisTigger - Players require a mechanism in order to trade anything that may have value with each other. This includes cash (Simoleons), objects and property.
MaxisTigger - More information on secure trading can be found on our backstage forums
MaxisTigger - to start the chat discussion off our first question for you will be what would make fire fun?
Captain_Morgan_JP - watching a place burn :)
JumpnJackFlash - Making the campfire object for TSO is a MUST for fun fire :)
Draconius - :p
Java - lol
TI-Power - fire could burn things
Sugrbelch - OPen questions from users
MooseWare - Destroying objects!
LinaMarie - use of fireworks to celebrate
sativa - lol
CrazyDave - more fires! more fires! :)
Java - -M!!!
HoneyDeLite - Can I ask, when "soon" might be for secure trading? next couple days? next week? two weeks?
Dre - if you could go around lighting people on fire.
Java - ok
Scott_C - make them occur more often
Syke[BC] - MMORPGS have been known to attract addictive personality personas.. and other mental problems, to the point that some have comited suicide due to a game in question, Seeing as Sims Online is a fantasy real life simulater to some extent will it come with a warning label in the future to avoid any potential law suits arrising from these events?
TI-Power - FIRE FIRE
kaleina - marshmellows - (got 13 ppl on my property answering these questions)
LinaMarie - liek 4th of july
hudybird - FIREWORKS
TCON|Aaura_Katrell - you cold give the sims matches
auggy - marshmallow & weenie roasting
sativa - campfires
DiabloDan - Burn Places to the ground!!!!!!!!!!
StarrB - ohhhhh fire!!! lol
Bozie - I would like campfires
* CrazyDave hugs tigger O:-) *
Tyler_Kinch - Fire would be AWSEOME! Just like in the offline game. MAke more of a chalenge. Also you could do stuff with your lot. BRING IT ON
Bluebear - Doh!.. got a match?
BarbieQ - How about a dance around the fire interaction for all of us pagan folks!
MattH - fire wouldnt be good, it would bring down moods of people if everything went up in flames, people get mad they do stupied things (such as the guy who commited suicided because of EQ)
Scott_C - make them occur more ofthen but dont make them dangerous
* MooseWare wishes Tigger good luck! *
Angrath - burn people
Angrath - now THAT is fun
Lord_SShadow - CHANGED PROPERTY/OBJECT LIMITS.
BrandonMurray - !
AmberJade - Just the excitement of the unexpected
TI-Power - u can use fire
hudybird - fireworks and camp fire
TI-Power - or puposly set arson to things
EvilDeadAsh - marshmallows
Miska - if you had a time limit on putting the fire out, if you didn't get it out in time the fire would spread
Java - Fire...
TCON|Aaura_Katrell - danceing around the fire is a good idea
KoNDoRiuS - stop setting fires scott
BarbieQ - Also, burning down all those big Top 100 houses that my little house can't compete with
Bozie - roasting marshmellows on campfire would be cool.
kaleina - more social interaction with the fires. I agree :) marshmellow and weenie roasts
MaxisTigger - thats it?
TI-Power - or light insents
Dre - i want to go around and burn things down like shops and my neighbors houses
HoneyDeLite - definatly would like to see a campfire
Dirk - being able to control fire.. turn them into bon fires and fire rings for camping
Sassybree - lol, maybe a button you could press that would IM a random firefighter
TI-Power - ot make the room rating go up
DiabloDan - Burning People with matches!!!!!
DragonMan - camp fire
leilanell - ok i finally figured out how to get here
auggy - ritual sacrifices? lol
CrazyDave - more destructive fires :-)
MooseWare - People, make sure your answers regard FIRE!
Leonard - When will stores be out?
Valeria - Guys, this is where you give feedback on the question that was presented, not ask a bunch of other questions :)
Scott_C - just make them occur more often
hudybird - nothing that can kill or burn a house!!!
LourdesBF - Fire would be fun it could potentially burn the entire property down
TI-Power - Lighting things with fire
geekgirl101 - Headless chickens running out of the oven with their feathers on fire.
Sassybree - pyros!!!!!!
TI-Power - candles
TI-Power - incents
LourdesBF - also campfires would be nice
VortexOfJP - Some danger from fire would be helpful to make it more fun
Captain_Morgan_JP - lol
Enilk_Libb_Jr_Alphaville - How about allowing us to burn down items and using them to make new better items with high mech?
Tyler_Kinch - Make them dangerous
Sassybree - sounds violent
Zori - I don't care about fire
KROM - randomness like lightning strikes and if a sim can burn but get revived by friends and fireplaces causing fires
Guest4 - campfires but I would hate to see my property detroyed :(
StarrB - campfires are good, being able to put it out in teh fire place
Neo - i don't see how fire can be fun - it seems like it would only be a "negative", similar to object value and reliability decay.
Bryan_Aquarius - Band objects should pay more
CrazyDave - great way to get rid of those old worn down objects :)
MaxisTigger - im getting mixed feelings on the items burning
Dre - i want to go around and burn things down like shops and my neighbors houses
TI-Power - You can use fires to light things up
Hunca - i would not want danger from fire, that is not fun
Java - lol
TI-Power - roasting marshmellows
Angrath - make it so ui can buy petrol cannisters and become pyromaniacs
LinaMarie - do not use to destroy others hard efforts at building houses
egrog1717 - fire to kill sims that can become zombies that can be raised from the dead by someone with a high skill in a certain category... would open the world to a new job market of excorsists...
TCON|Aaura_Katrell - i think the danceing around the fire and rosting marshmellows is a great idea
leilanell - are they getting to any real issues here or just pyromania
Bryce - I want to burn things
LourdesBF - Fires causing deaths
Dreamkr - I say let them burn. it will be a good time to see 18 people try to put out a fire!
Alexis_Jade - not really interested in fires
Lord_SShadow - We need the object limits changed to tile limits, Owners having full property limit as their own, with any roomie owned objects subtracted from that.
Enilk_Libb_Jr_Alphaville - And make it so I can actually make a fire, I have never made one before in TSO :)
MaxisTigger - what if you had an option to have items burn or not?
EvilDeadAsh - If it would burn up newbies asking to be my roommate...
MooseWare - I say we need to have items be DAMAGED, but, NOT DESTROYED
TI-Power - yes it is
lxccl37 - hey everybudy
geekgirl101 - Oh yes, we must have a campfire with roasting marshmallows. :)
AmberJade - the unexpectedness of fire always adds to he fun of the game
Bryce - I want everyone to die
TI-Power - YES
DiabloDan - Being able to die but having your character comeback in a day or 2
LourdesBF - and campfire songs
Captain_Morgan_JP - nahhh
* VBPunkGuy wonders what the heck everyone is talking about *
KROM - did mine go through..i may have posted too soon before it was unmoded
TI-Power - fire dosnt always destroy items in real life
Bryan_Aquarius - how can u read anything
* Julin1 thinks that there wants to know what happned to the band object that is th eSIms online guide book *
Hunca - if all my hard work goes up in smoke, i will unsub
JustinGray - To make fire fun, first off, you'd need to make many many more different fireplace styles. The current choices don't allow for much innovation in where they go or how they are used. Also, create a special emote to do within a raduis of the fireplace.
HoneyDeLite - I don't want guests to be able to burn down my objects, as long as I'm smart
Captain_Morgan_JP - make everything burnable
Bryan_Aquarius - it moves so fast
TI-Power - they should be able to be fixed
BrandonMurray - I dont like the option of having items burn
MtFujiWhitneyB - Would the fire damage other things in the house? It would bring room score down severely also..and it would be a bind to clean all of the ashes if you have a busy property.
Guest4 - I would say most expensive items should not burn
Hito - That's silly. Why would we want things to be set on fire?
Miska - allow items damaged by fire to be repaired
Java - Im Afraid of having NEW ROOMIES BURN DOWN MY HOUSE AND ALL MY STUFF just like they do WITH THE WALLS AND THE FLOOR
* foreverbear 's feed bak is too much city, too less people shut sum of the city down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *
nick2k - add a telephone so we can call the firedepartment as we did in the original game
TI-Power - also the sims should have a good way of puttin it out
Tink-DG - i don't think fires should be fatal to sims until we have the ability to "bring them back"
KROM - randomness like lightning strikes and if a sim can burn but get revived by friends and fireplaces causing fires
MooseWare - people say things about fire only
MattH - i read an article where a guy went to the extreme because he was robbed on EQ, couldnt this action bring similar thoughts to people who take the game to seriously?
DiabloDan - Have fire insurence for somethingg
Bozie - Only would like to burn something if I could repair it and make it better.
egrog1717 - candles would be fun... could have a romantic bath...
flakey - oh... fire would be more fun of someone would collect questsions..IE and OP..and then provide questions & responces in PUBLIC.. this is very hard to follow
LourdesBF - Fires with smoke damage that lasts for days lowering rooms scores
TI-Power - YEA a firedepartment would be cool
Zori - I agree with Hunca, if my work burns down I will quit playing the game
geekgirl101 - No, disabling fire destruction would be silly.
BarbieQ - Also, it would create a need for money once you get to your object limit
Thalia - I think that if fire was to destroy property, it could upset many players who have invested a lot of time into purchasing some of their more expensive objects.
Lord_SShadow - Actual jobs. Judge, cops, doctors, etc.
CrazyDave - i think if you're going to implement fire...you just gotta make it so anything can be destroyed...
lxccl37 - it would be
Java - Bit time lag
MaxisTigger - its fine netwizrd :)
vivi - career paths
leilanell - i don't think this entire conversation was supposed to be about fire
* Julin1 wants to know when jobs will be up *
Klaatu_Interhogan - Dance around the bonfire is one I'd like.
TI-Power - but if the roomie burns it down
MaxisTigger - ok think about this a second
MaxisTigger - what if you had an option to buy insurance so items would not burn?
J_Cephus - I like that idea.
jbrooks130 - no
Java - Would not burn or get our money back????
VBPunkGuy - Half of these people arent even paying attention to the question
Julin1 - that is already an idea
vivi - boring
Sugrbelch - ME TOO
leilanell - real jobs... police..teachers etc
BrandonMurray - Why not just leave the whole burning of the items out of the picture
Kirsten - Let owners grant roomies powers... that would be nice
TCON|Aaura_Katrell - verry good idea for house hold idems and life inshureance
MattH - depends highly on cost
Zori - I don't want to have to buy insurance
lxccl37 - thats a good idea
Hito - That's silly as well.
sativa - yes
phonie698 - that would be cool insurance
LinaMarie - so now we have to spend more time making money to pay for renewing policies
TI-Power - that is not a bad idea but i rather have them burn then the insurance will replace it
Leonard - How much would it be?
StarrB - no that would not be fun
Tink-DG - ...i just said that =o)
Lacentrix - i dont like that idea
Scott_C - dont care much
jbrooks130 - it was a pain the sims
Hunca - that's fun? insurance is fun? on what planet is insurance FUN?
Tyler_Kinch - Yep MaxisTigger. I read that in the forums. I would love it with fire insurance or without
MooseWare - Insurance is like fire alarms in 1.0
hudybird1 - this is messing up my com i cant read nothing
Dreamkr - Buy insurance? Well, bad enough the tiems are too expensive. Now ya want us to spend more???
Lord_SShadow - I could care less about fire. It's FLUFF. Get the main things working in the game better, and it would be more fun.
jbrooks130 - it would be a pain here!
Bozie - ok..so it will be like a bill.
MaxisTigger - give full detailed answers please
Hito - I've already got too much to spend my money on.
TI-Power - but also we want to have the power of being the insurance company
Leonard - I don't want my objects to burn at all.
StarrB - I don't like the Idea either
Iguana - There has to be better things Maxis is concerned with then fire
Sassybree - lmao, violent people
leilanell - when are real shops coming out?
AmberJade - need the fireman before you can implement fire...insurance = good
nick2k - so if we put insurance...do we get a new set of what we bought or what???
DiabloDan - Make it soo you have to pay in order to burn something down
geekgirl101 - Oh great, bring on the Dixons' sales persons. LOL
Guest101 - allow players to change their names after the sim is created
auggy - i wouldnt buy insurance...
TI-Power - we want the power of being the insurance company
LabRat - I'd prefer if I got a new item as replacement for the one that burned
J_Cephus - Just don't make the fire insurance too expensive.
LourdesBF - NO let the stuff burn, but you should be able to get the money back for the depreciated value
heff - this is really dumb
lxccl37 - buying insurence is a great idea.
Kirsten - Let owners grant powers to roomies... that would be good... im think...
jbrooks130 - no fires...
leilanell - i've been piddling around with my lot waiting for that ability
Lacentrix - if they burn, you should have to buy a new one. pay for the firetruck to come out. etc.
Valory - it's a good idea
kaleina - no Tigger, already too many costs. Fires would be more fun, if you had actual "jobs" like fire fighters and police men
Tink-DG - but wouldn't insurance make it more realistic
Hunca - i don' t want real life issues in my gameplay
MattH - if i pay 25k for an object i dont want to have to spend more money hoping it wont burn
Bozie - I just know how sims are...they will burn down stuff uworked very hard for.
Scott_C - Insurance would be OK, just eh
BarbieQ - I think insurance would create an unbalance in wealth much like the real world. The poor little houses couldn't afford it so it would offer a more realistic aspect to this game.
LinaMarie - no insurance - no burning down houses - way too much effort to build up our property
nick2k - YES to fires
jbrooks130 - fires=people dying=UNFUN
leilanell - any firm plans?
Zori - I agree w/ Lord_SShadow, get the main things in the game working better first, like get rid of property limits
LourdesBF - Its no fun if the stuff doesn't burn...
Dreamkr - I say BAH! on the insurance. The thought of buying a 30K fishtank, then insuring it is just ludacris
KROM - how about burnable items can be put in a room and cheapyly repired or replaces like haybales
CrazyDave - only if you can still insure objects that are 20% worn....they get that far down too quickly......
Tink-DG - it could be like one of the bills they want to implement
phonie698 - lol this isnt werking well
MaxisTigger - one point to make here
MaxisTigger - a full report will be done on this chat and it is logged
MaxisTigger - so please dont feel this is a waste of time as your feedback matters
Valeria - Next Question: Do you feel that jobs will provide more incentive? more excitement?
Guest9 - yes definitely
Warhola - Yes
HoneyDeLite - insurance would have to be really well calabrated. If it was too little, everyone would by and then, no fires anyways, if it was too much, then it would be a royal pain.
leilanell - what is the questions please
jbrooks130 - no
sativa - yes
J_Cephus - Yes! Yes! Yes!
TCON|Aaura_Katrell - yes
IznastY - yes
nick2k - more exitement
Mike_T_Sims - yes
EvilDeadAsh - No, the job objects are fine
smoorefu - Jobs are the thing that are needed the most
jbrooks130 - THE GAME IS GETTING TO COMPLEX
HoneyDeLite - yep
AmberJade - Yes, Jobs will be a great addition to the game
Guest99 - Yes
lxccl37 - i guess so
LabRat - For some people it may... for me personally... No
BrandonMurray - Absolutely
Guest48707905 - No. the incentive needs to be taken OFF money
Guest9 - yes
DiabloDan - yes!
Java - Plz, Anwser his Questions. Dont ask him new ones!!!! He will get to your Question faster if we answer his first!
aaron1532 - yes
Lord_SShadow - Jobs, if done correctly would work GREAT. But emphasis on CORRECTLY.
Tink-DG - jobs would be awsome, a very needed depth
jbrooks130 - THE SIMPLICITY OF IT ALL DRIVES PEOPLE TO PLAY IT
LinaMarie - stop skills from deteriorating so fast - so we can enjoy the jobs more
Miska - Oh yes, real jobs would be great . . . and exciting I think :)
Dreamkr - Well, that depends. Jobs could be cool, but then again it could really make things bad for money houses
nick2k - because we need a job we can go too
lxccl37 - _YES_
JoeMofo - maybe, but keep adding job objects
Sugrbelch - More exceitement definately
FunkmasterCD - I WANNA BE MCDONALDS WORKER IN THE SIM!
auggy - plz debug what is problematic now & not worry about new stuff
StarrB - yes we definitely need more variety
Tony - I really like the idea of jobs. There just needs to be more incentive for sims to take them on.
EvilDeadAsh - Go with player-created jobs and services
DiabloDan - you need to ba abl eto make more money
BarbieQ - no, I think that jobs will continue the monotony of my typical day, I much prefer job objects, I don't need 2 full time jobs tyvm
MaxisTigger - What types of jobs do you want to see?
ASCIIrider_Alphaville - yes, I'm looking foreward to jobs
Uber_Dykstra - we need more skills, and make it harder to get the skills
Anna_M - no.. I don't like the idea of jobs
LinaMarie - same with needs - skills and needs deteriorate so fast that jobs are second rate
Netwizard - Jobs will be better than casinos
geekgirl101 - Real jobs? You mean, something other than the "make gnome" "sell gnome" objects? Hmm, lemme think about this..... YES, most definitely. :)
Bozie - Yes I do valeria
VortexOfJP - YES! Jobs are an AWESOME idea!!! Definitely the way to go with this!
TCON|Aaura_Katrell - maby more exideing jobs
Neo - how would jobs work? would you have to be online at specific times to go to a job? would you just have to spend a certain amount of time at a job? or are you talking about the "employees" idea?
vivi - career paths/ and more powers to the roomies
Nayla - No I don't think jobs will make the game more fun
Cytra - it would give me a goal
Cahrisa - ahhh
LourdesBF - Yes as long as there aren't a whole bunch of people with the same skills doing the same jobs
Dirk - The job design in the backstage forums sounds excellent, i liked everything i read.
JD_from_IH - Yes Jobs would add complexity
Julin1 - I think jobs will be great
foreverbear - ya, job will be cool!!
StarrB - too many houses have the same jobs
smoorefu - I don't think the game is too complex; if anything it is not complex enough to be interesting
Guest4 - Yes, definitely!
LinaMarie - anxiously awaiting stores - would be nice job
Studios - i say NO to jobs, but a big YES to more variety for job objects - add in another 10 job objects and it will be fine
jbrooks130 - Great Responsibilities...
Guest9 - variety
Anita_Fortuna - I think that we need to be able to alter the sims we have
Beariel-Fuji - we should be able to have families
Tink-DG - can we add more definition to "jobs"?
nick2k - also lock more of the skills too
TheChad787 - more excitement yes but not nessasarilly fun
DiabloDan - it should let you work at one of the MCDonelds things
vivi - more job objects
Hito - As long as the jobs don't involve the sim going away for a while and having to stare at the screen.
Cahrisa - Can we have a another interaction?
jbrooks130 - who wants responities
Tony - Government jobs come to mind when government is instituted.
heff - i would love to have jobs
Patt_Q - were do we send messasges
AmberJade - Singer
badboy - whats the sims url
Steve_Magil - depends on the type of job, but yes it could and would, if it made money not traded money
sativa - yes job objects
Dirk - I can't wait to become a bartender
LourdesBF - I"m all for it cause it would created skill diversity
Hunca - what would we wear to work? we can't change clothes yet
Bozie - and it be made for the time limit that u r on...not all can be on sims for hours on end to do the job..so only accounts for the time u r online.
TI-Power - well
Joseph_Ronin - Yea we need to have families
Mazz-Meena - can work in a game and not get paid for it
Anita_Fortuna - there is no need
J_Cephus - If people dedicate properties to the various jobs. Like a firefighter department. Then people could look them up on the property search menu and find a firefighter.
Beariel-Fuji - jobs would be cool
Tyler_Kinch - Yes. Jobs will be exciting. It will create a less MAXIS depended economy. And would encourage roleplaying a lot. Less need for those "god-awful" job objects and you can be more creative. I think that you might need to lower the payouts on JOB OBJECTS though, so people will be encouraged to take the jobs. Overall, jobs will be an excellent addition to the game
EvilDeadAsh - More diversity of job objects would be nice
BarbieQ - A job would add interest only if it was manual labor like bartending, housekeeping or djing
Lord_SShadow - Make sure that there is incentive to take a job... Not like the fiasco of the property categories. If you are going to be a doc, make sure there is some reward for chosing that type of job.
geekgirl101 - Very true, Hito.
TI-Power - yeah
Tyler_Kinch - Yes. Jobs will be exciting. It will create a less MAXIS depended economy. And would encourage roleplaying a lot. Less need for those "god-awful" job objects and you can be more creative. I think that you might need to lower the payouts on JOB OBJECTS though, so people will be encouraged to take the jobs. Overall, jobs will be an excellent addition to the game
Cahrisa - like can we have an interaction to sit on the ground?
Cubby_JP - yes i would like jobs
Guest4 - I would really love it if we could alter our sims as well.
Tony - Basic jobs already mentioned: gardener, repair person, maids.
flakey - if you have a group of prefabricated questions, couldn't you simply post them on the player website and then actually pay attention to the forum's responses instead of this
Julin1 - its very hard to read what u r writing with so many people
jbrooks130 - This chag system isn't working!
sativa - i think maybe another skill with a set of job objects
Patt_Q - when are store objects comeing out
Crazy_Monster - I agree. We need to be able to change our name, like we can change our property
FunkmasterCD - I WANNA OPEN A BURGER KING SO I BURN DOWN MY NEIGHBOR'S MCDONALDS
lxccl37 - we don't need families..
MooseWare - ahh!
Zori_Mt_Fuji - I prefer freelance job objects
KROM - if momi pays for jobs then yes otherwise its too hard to enforce pay etc
LinaMarie - working like a dog all the time - but no fun - getting boring - more jobs will help and redoing needs and skill deterioration
jbrooks130 - yeah
Nayla - I agree with Barbie I think jobs are too similar to real life
Neon_ - I already have a job in RL, I come to the game to relax.... don't need another job
Shyanne_-_Blazing - Yes
phonie698 - not if u have smartbutler...lol
Cubby_JP - wont we be able to change our sims in the future?
StarrB - I don't think we should change job lot payouts they are low enough
jbrooks130 - exactly what neon said
J_Cephus - We could dedicate a property to a firefighter property or police property and role play more effectively. I love the idea.
EvilDeadAsh - For instance you could make it possible to earn money as well as study on a computer
VBPunkGuy - WOOHOO, yes .... jobs would be awesome!!!
vivi - being able to change clothes permanently..
Miska - exactly Krom
jbrooks130 - We come to Relax
phonie698 - trying to read all that crap
jbrooks130 - not to Work
MaxisTigger - Neon you dont think it would make it fun?
Valeria - Next Question: Do you feel that Employment contracts (auto pay with hire action) is needed BEFORE jobs get implemented?
MooseWare - Yes!
nick2k - yes!
Cubby_JP - i would like jobs because it will be fun as well as a steady way to make money
Scott_C - yes
J_Cephus - Yes
Leo - Hey Tigger...dont you think you need to add some asventure to the game?
TCON|Aaura_Katrell - yes
JD_from_IH - Yes.
geekgirl101 - Yes.
Tink-DG - sadly, i'm sure it is
Guest - fun to have jobs?
Cahrisa - No
TheChad787 - yesum
Renna - NO!!!!
Zanzamar - ohh yes
Java - I think so
Scott_C - woah woah
Uber_Dykstra - Valeria, yes i think it is very importnat
DiabloDan - YES!
auggy - why not fix whats going wrong now before adding more?
Cahrisa - No
WilliamWallace - would keep management simple
Guest - yes adventure
Neo - employment contracts need a lot of special thought to make sure they're not abused by either side.
VBPunkGuy - hmmm, never heard about that, but it sounds cool to me.
aaron1532 - yes very much so
Tyler_Kinch - Jobs will be fun. Because it will allow us to ROLEPLAY our dream job.
Scott_C - acting a little to hasty
Scott_C - NO NO NO
smoorefu - what about a usenet group
LinaMarie - yes- very mean and dishonest players out there
Scott_C - DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME
VortexOfJP - No, but they'll help with the less honest owners. :p
Crazy_Monster - I agree with Neo
Cytra - Yes, because some people have created jobs for others
Zori_Mt_Fuji - I prefer freelance job objects, where contracts are unneccesary
HoneyDeLite - yes, I can't see how it would work otherwise
lxccl37 - im not sure if that will change anything
Lord_SShadow - Yes, that would be required so people are not ripped off.
Cahrisa - I don't...
JoeRogers - yes to employment contracts... more interactive objects first
EvilDeadAsh - Not really
Tink-DG - too many people already get screwed, so i think it may be a necessity, which is unfortunate
heff - both
hudybird1 - yes
Renna - I agreee with Tyler!
Pookie - I think some of the bugs need to be fixed before anything else
Julin1 - YES,
Valory - no jobs can work without it
MooseWare - If we have employees, they need to be able to open the lot when no roomies are there AND the hiring needs to be MORE than a 1 time thing!
KROM - YES! thats what ive been talking about
hudybird1 - YES
leilanell - in other words.. only a certain number of each type of shop, only a certain number of each type of jobs
VortexOfJP - It will improve job use however
Bozie - No
Neon_ - Tigger to answer your question...where would I find time? trying to keep skills from decaying takes most of it
phonie698 - lol
DiabloDan - yes you need some more ways to make money
AmberJade - Yes necessary
LabRat - If you are going to implement Jobs then implementing a guarantee of pay for work provided would be a must
MaxisTigger - so implement both at the same time?
VBPunkGuy - and also, most people are dogging on Maxis a lot lately, I just wanna say that you all are doing a wonderful job and keep up the good work!
Pookie - And I think Tech Support should get back to people when they say they will
BarbieQ - I do think that employment contracts would make the game less fun. I think that money is the center of everything is this game thus far and needs to have less focus
Steve_Magil - yes most definatly you need a contract to be fullfilled BEFORE you can hire someone so that the pay would not be disputed by either person involved in the job
hudybird1 - we need to be able to hire ppl!
HoneyDeLite - yes, same time
heff - yes it does
Scott_C - It would be stupid to hire w/o having a job
Cahrisa - No, no point
Leo - We need to have some goals, some targets to achieve than just keep on making potions n gnomes
tsodjMATT - Yes!
aaron1532 - you need to make sure people dont rip other sims off
heff - same
Cahrisa - yea
Dreamkr - A contract would work. Keep people honest and no one gets hosed
jbrooks130 - Why would anyone want more responsibilities??????
TI-Power - if the sims is based on real life it should be based on real jobs
Pookie - We've been waiting over 2 weeks for a call that was only suppose to take up to 12 hours
Tyler_Kinch - Yes. So you can hire a teacher at your school for example. And also I am looking forward to see a PLAYER RAN ECONOMY rather then a Maxis inflated one
KROM - yes need enforcment by contracts
leilanell - i agree leo
TI-Power - so yes
DiabloDan - emploies should be able to open up the lot just like room m8s
Scott_C - NEED TO HAVE JOBS AND THE ACTION RELEASED AT THE SAME TIME
VBPunkGuy - yeah, making gnomes is getting very old.
Julin1 - i agree, we do need a goal
TI-Power - auto pay would be beter
ShadowWulf - Finally made it....lemme catch up...
JumpnJackFlash - I'd definitely like to hire greeters and such for my house
Tink-DG - jobs, "can" work without it, but too many people are scamming innocent sims already
tsodjMATT - This is too fast...
Cahrisa - well i guess a contract would b cool...
Hunca - seems to me this job topic is like the cart before the horse, pretty complex ideas when some basics haven't even been addressed
Valory - nah the game needs more content implement as you can
wolfette1 - when are the casino things comeing ou t
jbrooks130 - Its hard enough just greening up every 5 mins!
StarrB - I don't know about contracts sounds too technical
Captain_Morgan_JP - sure
TI-Power - we dont want to get ripped off just because someone doesnt like us
BarbieQ - maybe a caterer or a maid could be fun for a little while, but I can clean a toilet and mingle with my guests
hudybird1 - yes
Hito - I think there needs to be lots of ways of making money, just things that are entertaining while you're doing them.
LinaMarie - don't want to "have" to hire employees
Dreamkr - Plus with contracts it may get people to log on and help out propreties
Julin1 - i think jobs r needed
AmberJade - not feasable in some instances though
Java - I think it would be hard to do the whole "jobs" thing.
TI-Power - but they should be able to fire the sim but the sim still gets paid for the hrs and time eh she worked
Cubby_JP - but what if they dont log on enough and they have a contract though
lxccl37 - yes jobs are needed
Neo - so how would a contract be enforced by the game? if not enforced by the game, what recourse do you have when one side breaks the contract?
nick2k - yeah..auto pay should be a way to hire ppl
Zanzamar - i love the idea of being able to upload custom items that meet with the approval of Maxis upon upload, and then being able to open a shop and sell them to players...
JustinGray - employment contracts should be extremely open-ended, as in, not job specific, but aren't the two basically the same thing? whats the difference?
DiabloDan - try to make it like rel life if u can do it in real life do it in the sims
FunkmasterCD - Make it so you can join the army and stuff in the game!
Zori_Mt_Fuji - I agree with Hunca, address the basics first!
StarrB - I agree with leo too
Guruk32 - why dont you put nudity in this game
TI-Power - also i think the boss isallowed to set the hrs of which the sim works
Miska - perhaps have NPC employers . . so as employees don't get cheated out of their pay
TI-Power - thats it
lxccl37 - lol
smoorefu - just like the object trade design, you need a way to make sure both sides keep the agreement
Anya_Harris-Alphaville - is this the sims online chat
Crazy_Monster - Zanzamar, I agree
phonie698 - ok im gone this totally sux compared to your other chats
Pookie - yes
VBPunkGuy - This is called and OPEN CHAT for a reason, kaliena
HoneyDeLite - I want to see less NPCs not more
Bluebear - so we all work at money houses whatelse is new
Zanzamar - ahh this is good. lets slow it down, and discuss this people. . .
starrienyght - CHANGE LOVE TUBS TO ALL PROPERTIES
Java - yea
StarrB - Hello can we just stick to the topic!!!!!
Pookie - Tech Support needs to be a hell of a lot better
zeb-calvins-creek - is this tso chat>
BarbieQ - there are too many things out in the real world that prevent people from coming on here. I do not want a sim getting angry at my sim over an emergency in rl that prevented me from cleaning her sim toilets
WilliamWallace - social dynamic is always going to be a problem in this kind of game but most of us will play it right
Cubby_JP - sorry for using bold
Pookie - Buffet table bugs need to be fixed
DiabloDan - no not NPC emploriors we need a nother way to make money like being hired
Gallahan - Perhaps if we would all just discuss the issues put forward to us, using normal non-bold, non-caps lettering, we'd all be able to be understood... :)
Lord_SShadow - I wish that before stuff like this was worked on/implemented, the basics of the game get fixed first. All the bugs, raise the property limits, etc. There needs to be a better priority put on this stuff.
Tyler_Kinch - .
nick2k - what about the cbu??? when i first read about TSO in a magazine...the cbu was going to be a business tool....not a paper chase
Pookie - You guys have a lot of bugs and you're doing nothing about it
Thalia - Good point BarbieQ
Julin1 - ohk nect question
DiabloDan - what bugs?
heff - yes tons
zeb-calvins-creek - love tub and bed to all properties would be nice
Pookie - thank you Uber
leilanell - if your job is to run a store... and there can be an unlimited number of the same kind of store
DiabloDan - i havent seen anybugs?
StarrB - Amen Gallahan
JordanOfALPHAVILLE - Like I said, I think money is too much of an objective...this is supposed to be a social game, make more social incentives/ interactions
egrog1717 - new content is needed along with big fixes... they go hand in hand to make the gaming experence as enjoyable as possible...
heff - i have
hudybird1 - can we go onto stroe objects?
KROM - this abut the future so stop crying about current issues people
leilanell - then you have no job security or a secure economy
MooseWare - yea Less NPC's for all!
smoorefu - justin how could we do that though?
Julin1 - i think the item limit shoul dbe raised higher
Lord_SShadow - Missing items, bugged buffets, people turning into ghosts and peeing all over themselves all night long, crashing to desktop... etc etc
Pookie - Buffet tables always have bugs... I keep having to reset the property just to be able to clean the tables!!
geekgirl101 - Contracts are a good idea, I'm already working as a repairman in Fancey Fields.
Leo - TSO is getting do boring...nothing new to do in it
hudybird1 - and maybe a date
DiabloDan - make it so you can hire someone to kill some one....HAHAHAHAHA
HoneyDeLite - the love bed and tub on all properties would make the Romance Cat useless except as a lable.
ShadowWulf - Tigger My question tonight is this are we going to have Jobs in the future and will we ever be able to make our own stuft IN the game to Sell
Egidius - an automated payment system would help, but it shouldn't be limited to sims having to go to your property. I run a radio station and our djs roam the cities djing parties. they aren't paid right now but one day they may ask to be. if i could automate this somehow it would help tremendously because there is little way for us all to get in game at the same time
LinaMarie - you have to add some fun back into this game
Crazy_Monster - For the buffet bugs, just put it into your inventory, and take it back out. No more bugs
TI-Power - contracts are a good idea
BarbieQ - group objects were supposed to be the focus, this game is called The Sims Online, not GREED
LabRat - Didn't realize we had changed topic
LinaMarie - can't just keep eating, sleeping, and reading
Scott_C - the Question is should the hire with automatic pay be implemented before jobs are?
TI-Power - whatever makes it more profesinal
MaxisTigger - Do you feel that Employment contracts (auto pay with hire action) is needed BEFORE jobs get implemented
MaxisTigger - Regarding Role play lots - Do you feel you have the tools to create role play lots?
Leo - We need to have some hidden goal, something which should keep us playing it all the time
Rango - otherwise jobs will just work on heresay and there's nothing in the game to back it up
sativa - lol these forums are great for studying but i gotta green
Java - Yes
TCON|Aaura_Katrell - yes deffinatly
Luis-Sarabando - yes
AmberJade - No, lets see how it works before contracts go in...make it optional
zeb-calvins-creek - Any chance we could have love beds and tubs in the money category?
KROM - contracts and enforecment is way to go..like in the playstation 2 version tyou are rewarded for getting jobs done
LinaMarie - no
LourdesBF - yes like the maids and gardeners get paid per hour automatically in the offline verson, but the pay should be determined by the players
Scott_C - sort of
Thursday_Next - Nope, but it would be cool to rate people with stars like on ebay. Trustworthiness so to speak. Maybe only people who hire can do that
Captain_Morgan_JP - YES Tigger
JoeMofo - yes
JD_from_IH - No. Object limits, clothing limits, appearances
geekgirl101 - Yes.
Pookie - Guess they're not listening
HoneyDeLite - more interactions and actions would be useful
J_Cephus - No
Tony - Yes, we should be ale to create RP lots.
lxccl37 - [no comment]
Hito - Yes, but they're never successful. There are too many skill mills and no place to have fun.
wolfette1 - needs to be set up like reg sims with the maid and gardener
Guest - need to be able to lock more than one skill
TI-Power - yes very acontracts would be a good idea to have so it would be more professional remember adults also play this game we should be able to creat a role playing lot and have a house at the same time though
Bryan_Aquarius - like what?
heff - yea im with leo
Scott_C - not really
VBPunkGuy - yeah, more or less
nick2k - no we dont
Rango - WE NEED A 'SPANK' INTERACTION!!
EvilDeadAsh - Yes, I already have a roleplay lot, but more costumes would be nice
Walker - yes
Guest00 - How about a section for players 18+, sort of an "adult" area?
Bozie - .
Neo - i don't know if we have the tools - but right now the game is too geared towards skills and money, so those lots still get almost all the visitors.
Luis-Sarabando - OK NO AND YES ANSWERS!!!!!
Miska - Yes Tigger, regarding the employment contracts
TheChad787 - yes
Scott_C - I WANNA PLUNDER PEOPLES STUFF
Egidius - yes otherwise paying people would get to be a headache. it makes sense for the infrastructure to support something to be in place before the actual something is brought online
Lord_SShadow - Depends on the type of role-playing. In order to get role-playing work well, you will need to implement custom content. Plain and simple.
Thursday_Next - Rate how successfully they performed their job, and let everyone see the average feedback, etc.
LinaMarie - for newbies would be nice to add themes to help build lot with certain characteristics
Keiki - personal and lot object limits have got to go
TI-Power - it should be based on a chain system off bosses and scrubs
AmberJade - Need more content to make a successful roleplay lot
Scott_C - LOL
nick2k - yeah we need a 18+ Area....
JordanOfALPHAVILLE - that is going to take a long time, Shadow, Im sure
Bryan_Aquarius - what is the point of that
Java - Yes, Just having that option. Would increase the FUN in this game. And the other "jobs" that you make would just add the Icing to the CAKE!!!!
TI-Power - raises should be in order
LourdesBF - short of like a haggle over the price. similar to the object trades
heff - more COSTUMES
RhythmB - There needs to be a wider vareity of costumes and items to play with for role playing
J_Cephus - We do not have the tools to create role playing lots.
MooseWare - NO!
KROM - not as much as need,,such as costumes and actions..need help
TI-Power - and u should be able to work ur way to the top
Thursday_Next - But don't let just anyone rate them
BarbieQ - I do think so, but the contracts need to be loose and breakable
Pookie - WHAT DO YOU PLAN ON DOING ABOUT THOSE?
Luis-Sarabando - lol say yes or no damit,,,!!!
JordanOfALPHAVILLE - this is silly
Lord_SShadow - Depends on the type of role-playing. In order to get role-playing work well, you will need to implement custom content. Plain and simple.
egrog1717 - no, at the moment the currenct objects do not really allow for RP'ing because there is just no sense to them... as there is no point to RP'ing atm (mainly b/c of lack of cash, greening up, etc) it leaves little time for creavity...
geekgirl101 - I already work as a repairman in Fancey Fields. I need something solid to make it a fulltime job, not something done in my "spare time."
Bryan_Aquarius - haveing a sepret place for 18+ players???
TI-Power - everyone should be giving and equal chance
DiabloDan - What the HELL is a Role play lot?!?!?!?!?
JustinGray - certianly not. the lots are not diverse enough because of the extreme lack of new objects, and the ability for one lot to have just about everything you need.
Patt_Q - can uall stop tlakign so fast
JordanOfALPHAVILLE - AMEN NICK
Cytra - APPEARANCE - i dont want to look the same all the time if I am to roleplay different characters
CrazyDave - yes, we got the tools to role play pot smoking houses, brothels...what more could ya need........
smoorefu - Do you think we could set up a mailing list for this type of discussion instead of irc?
Julin1 - i think more clothes in the clostet things would be a plus..more naked stuff in the vegas..
Hunca - we need sim psychiatrists, a lot of therapy is needed
zeb-calvins-creek - LOVE BEDS AND TUBS IN MONEY CATEGORY!!!! pLEASE!
`fallen - More clothing would be nice.. Like winter wear for snow lot, or beach item for beach lot.. like in Vacation... Make it more real
KROM - for example you have rennasanse music but no dances to match
JD_from_IH - It is VERY difficult to get enough items and the right look to make RP worth while.
DiabloDan - Role Play lot whats that?!?!?!
Tyler_Kinch - No. We need more tools for roleplaying lots. First thing you should do, is be MORE STRICT ON CATEGORIES. You see MONEY LOTS in the roleplaying lots and you just cant compete. Maybe you could help out roleplaying lots by using the SPOTLIGHT FEATURE thats in the design forums
TCON|Aaura_Katrell - yes tony
Miska - we need more actions/interactions to make any role play setting more realistic
Guest7 - hi um i have a question
Julin1 - yes we do need more actionc
Tony - Thanks TCON
HoneyDeLite - Yes, we can rp now, but it could be a lot better with more interactions, possible minor screening, and a better in game messaging system
PaddyOFurniture]BF - you dont need special lots to roleplay
Nothappy - We need to be able you change your name so your sim can't be deleted.
TCON|Aaura_Katrell - np
TI-Power - yes
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